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Hooray we are caught up!

Just a reminder for everyone, personal attacks is not an effective way of debating…and they are not allowed on SG. If you see a comment attacking someone, let us know on Twitter. You can DM us if you want to let us know privately.

Also, I made a comment on reddit today trying to clarify the difference between “joke” and “surprise” characters. Again, because of timezones and work obligations I was pretty late to the post. It’s not worth it to make a video about it, but here’s the comment, as I think it’s clarifies some misconceptions.

Surprise characters aren’t the “joke character”. Game and Watch, R.O.B. and Duck Hunt were “surprise” characters.

Sakurai actually mentioned this in an interview outright…that we haven’t translated yet. He says when selecting R.O.B., he wanted a surprise character like Mr. Game and Watch was in Melee.

Sakurai also didn’t know that R.O.B. was going to be in Mario Kart DS when selecting him for Brawl

Since we know that Pichu was the joke character of Melee, it shows that there’s a difference between joke and surprise characters and that joke characters don’t exist in Brawl and Smash for Wii U/3DS

If you guys see threads on reddit concerning development topics, can you let me know on Twitter?

This article looks at comments spanning July 28th, to July 5th (Japan time).


Fatal Frame would probably get an assist trophy next. It hasn’t sold that much, and I’m not sure how recongizable it is to people. I don’t think it’s on the same level as Xenoblade was before Shulk’s inclusion….but maybe I’m just ignorant?


That’s a good thing to point out. I don’t think Sakurai adds reps just to fill out an imaginary quota…and there’s a lot of other ways to increase representation besides fighters. Zelda got a ton of content in assist trophies, stages, and items! Even if it didn’t get a new fighter, it benefited from a lot of other forms of representation in the game.


Why would I feature YOUR comments? Oh wait, jeez. I did it it again.

Glad to see you and some of the other SG regulars in the Discord chat (winkwinknudgenudge)!


Ahhh interesting! Never knew about the device being in Chibi-Robo! Thanks for pointing it out dan, and for clarifying zoniken!

Rafael Mauna Luke

Yeah…Togedamaru isn’t a simple name. I can see A LOT of people getting it wrong.



Honestly just featuring this for the Star Wars Episode 1: Racer love. It’s a pretty solid racer! If you have access to it, definitely check it out!


Kind of ties into the Zelda comment from earlier. But I agree with you. Animal buddies would make sense for an Assist Trophy. Heck, a minecart stage could be amazing!

Arthur 97

Arthur 97 and Peridot Gem have a debate in the comment section of Settle it in Smash: Should Sakurai Return as the Series Director? I guess they should settle it in Smash…(I’ll walk myself out). As I mentioned in the video, Sakurai does take a lot of control — and it’s a good thing and a bad thing. On one hand, he stresses how important it is to fully visualize his game. He’s talked about this in the GDC 2008 talk. I’m sure it drives some of the staff members crazy though, as Sakurai can obsessed over the small details (Chris Pranger discusses this).

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  1. In short,

    Joke Character: A character who is deliberately underpowered, competitively unviable, and not to be taken seriously.

    Surprise Character: A character who few were expecting to be playable and/or has an unconventional fighting style, but is intended to be just as viable as anyone else.

    R.O.B., Duck Hunt, and Wii Fit Trainer were all “surprise characters” in that regard. We haven’t had any deliberate joke characters since Pichu.

  2. Yes, spread the Episode 1: Racer love! The more people who know about that game, the better. Those were some of my best gaming experiences when I still had an N64. I wish they’d release it on the virtual console, but I guess there may be issues since it’s a movie licensed game.

  3. Pokémon Company, being protective the way they are.. Isn’t weird that the two “joke” characters (not a fan of this term) are from Pokémon?

  4. Now that I look back on this… It makes me realize how worthless everything except for characters and maybe stages are toward series representation.

    Think about it. Assist Trophies are inconsistent. Random characters are thrown in, taken out or randomly have a design change. Examples: Characters like Samurai Goroh. 8 whole assist trophies from Brawl didn’t return. Nintendog getting a different design for whatevs, It proves how low priority Assists are! It makes sense on how they aren’t evenly divided.

    They even have the same effects as any playable character but with a different animation. Starman’s attack “PK Fire” but without the fire effect in terms of the way it’s attack looks?

    Music, trophies and items aren’t used in arguments at all.

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