Hey guys, looks like it’s time for another Source Gaming Choice article. While last time we sturred up some serious buisness with our take on who qualifies as an All-Star of gaming, we’re going to go a bit lighter in tone this week. Today’s Source Gaming Choice will feature predictions by the Source Gaming staff on who and what will be announced in the December Broadcast! Let us know what you think will be announced in the comments below.
There is a big difference between who I would like to see in this Direct and who i think we will see. In my opinion, with all the rumours, which characters are big names for Nintendo and which characters will sell as DLC, I think that the Inklings and Shovel Knight are the most likely. I would rather not have either honestly. There are so many other third party characters who deserve this more than Shovel Knight (like Bomberman or Rayman) and I fear that the Inklings will be held back from their great potential because of the Nintendo 3DS (check my dream smashers on the Inklings to see how I think they could work). That is who I expect to see but who I want to see? There are 3 possible other characters in my opinion. The first two are Wolf and Snake who could return as two of the key missing veterans, similar to the June direct that had Ryu and two veterans. This time we will have Cloud and two veterans. However, I think that’s a bit disappointing for the final DLC so I think we need a new character and the only likely one in my mind is Dixie Kong. Her similar body structure to Diddy means they can put less work into her and, a moveset is already made for her from the Brawl days. I do not know who is a ballot character but I do not think Cloud is. I think there is one ballot winner and I want to say it is Shovel Knight but I am honestly not sure.
tl:dr: Shovel Knight, Cloud and Inklings in the direct. I’d rather it was Cloud, Dixie Kong and either Wolf or Snake though.
Despite all the hype around it, I’ll keep my expectations low. I think we’ll see two or three more characters in addition to Cloud. If the rumors are anything to go by, the Inklings and Shovel Knight are a possibility. Inklings would make a ton of sense, given they’re from a successful new IP from this year and are liked by many Nintendo fans in addition to being able to provide unique and creative gameplay. As for Shovel Knight, I’m a bit iffy considering how high the standards for third party characters have been so far. I wouldn’t mind his inclusion, but I don’t think he will be included if Cloud is any indication.
Should we get three more characters, I expect one more popular veteran to be included such as Wolf or Snake. Stages, Mii Fighter outfits and amiibo figure announcements are also expected, as is a detailed explanation by Sakurai on Cloud and the Final Fantasy stage, Midgar.
A more pessimistic approach of mine is that all characters revealed in this broadcast will be chosen from ballot submissions and this is, indeed, the last wave of DLC. On a more optimistic light, I think this will be the penultimate wave, the last one being released in 2016. In this point of view, characters for this wave are either not from the ballot or from picks made earlier during its run, with picks based on the final results being part of the final DLC wave.
As for my personal wishes, I only really want Wolf to return. That alone would make me quite satisfied. Of course, I would greatly appreciate the inclusion of Snake, as well as content based on Xenoblade Chronicles X, mainly a stage and music.
First off, I want to say that I am fairly certain that this Direct will be it for Smash news. Sakurai really likes to explain newcomers, and I’m not sure he would have much of a chance to do so in a non-Smash Direct. Second of all, the only thing I am 100% certain of is that we will see Cloud and a few additional characters. Although not a lock, I am betting on the known quantity and am saying that we will see a total of 3 including Cloud. As for who they could be? I really don’t have a concrete idea. The Inkling Smash rumor is dead and I don’t have much faith in the Shovel Knight rumor, either. I feel like Smash DLC is going to go out with a bang, so I am not sure that we will see any veterans. Snake is a longshot but not out of the realm of possibility, and I could certainly see Wolf being added alongside a Star Fox Zero. As to who the newcomer(s) could be? I still think Inkling is a firm possibility, and I wouldn’t 100% rule out a Donkey Kong newcomer. More likely, though, is another 3rd party character. I’ll say either Rayman or Tails (from Sonic) with no particular reason to believe (or really even want) either. I do expect plenty of Mii Fighter outfits and for the remaining stage(s) to be bundled with a character. I definitely think that we will be seeing some more Square-Enix Mii costumes, at least a Moogle or Slime hat if not more. I actually have a bet with PushdustIn about this (Sqaure-Enix costumes), so it should be fun to see which of us is right.
I think there will be three additional characters (along with Cloud). What lead me to this conclusion is the current character select screen. It is all but confirmed that there will be three more characters (which Cloud would be one). This would bring the character count to 55, and 58 with all the Mii Fighters. However, this would not fit in the current select screen. There select screen has 4 rows. With Cloud plus 2 characters, there would be 57 boxes (55 fighters, the Mii fighter box and the random box), resulting in a row of 15 and three rows of 14, resulting in an out of place roster. With one more character, the roster would be have 58 boxes with two rows of 15 and two rows of 14 and would resemble the select screen at launch. This would match with the first wave of DLC and bring the total amount of downloadable characters to 8.
So what characters will be added? I do not expect more than two newcomers given the amount of work, so I expect that if 4 characters (including Cloud) happens, then one of them will be a veteran. Wolf may be likely given the fact he is a veteran and won’t require as much work, he remains a popular character, and can coincide with the release of Star Fox Zero. Inkling may also be a possibility since the game has been going very well. Splatoon has sold 2.42 million, with 1.56 million sales coming from Japan. Beyond this, anything is possible. I will give a nod to a Donkey Kong character as they have been popular among fans, but we can never be sure, especially with Cloud coming out of left field. I do not expect third party characters although I would not totally rule them out. The greatest issue those characters face is the time to establish licenses, so the most likely newcomers may come from companies that already have a character in Smash. I do not think Cloud was a ballot character given the work done on him, and the reason he is coming out now is because of licensing issues. Thus, I expect similar issues may bar third party characters from being added, especially as develop may be wrapping up.
Beyond that, I expect the updates will officially end in April. This is one year from Mewtwo’s release and would be six months from the close of the ballot, giving the team adequate time to develop new characters. That said, the presentation will likely show off (or tease) all the new content coming and the content will release in December, February and April. Sakurai will likely mention the ballot, and he may even respond to some of the suggestions fans have made, as he did with Super Smash Brothers Melee and Super Smash Brothers Brawl. There will also be some stages as well, probably more classic N64 stages, as well as Mii Fighter costumes, which will likely focus on Square-Enix games and characters. There is also the possibility of new mores, but if one does happen, I do not expect it will release until February. In closing, remember to be realistic. My predictions are a bit out there, and may very well be wrong. Given data on the disc, we can expect at least 2 more characters beyond Cloud. So, expect the worse and hope for the best.
First of all, I think that when DLC ends (be it with this presentation in December, or early next year) it’s going to go out with a bang. We’ve seen progressively more surprising additions in characters like Ryu and Cloud. I feel like we’ve got a character around the corner that will at least measure up to the kind of attention that those characters drummed up. As we’re getting a final Smash direct to present us with this new information, there’s definitely going to be a huge blowout of information, which will undoubtedly include more information on Cloud (whom I think will release at the end of the presentation). If Cloud was the teaser to entice people to watch the direct, then my mind kind of boggles thinking about the possibilities of the next characters.
The pessimist in me is saying, Cloud and 2 more characters are what we’re in for, though it’s hard to pinpoint exactly who those characters are, some of the safest guesses would be; Inklings, Paper Mario and Dixie Kong. Though Inklings are the most feasible due to Splatoon’s overwhelming success. I think it’s likely we’ll see another 3rd Party character, Rayman would make the most sense on that front, he’s the character that I think most comfortably stands shoulder to shoulder with the 3rd Parties already in Smash. But Sakurai is so unpredictable that this is extremely open ended.
I don’t think the timing works out for Cloud to be able to be a Ballot pick. A scenario in which we see Cloud releases alongside one or two other characters following the December presentation is just as plausible to me as a scenario in
which we see a Mewtwo-esque reveal for characters selected from the ballot. Ones that will be released next year. A total of 3-5 (Cloud inclusive) more characters in total is basically the minimum to the maximum that I expect, with 3 being the magic number.
As for what I really want. I would love to see Wolf return, but I’m not really feeling positive about his chances. A DK newcomer, preferably Dixie (but I’d be equally fine with K. Rool) and Banjo-Kazooie will all top my christmas list for Santa Sakurai.
Pessimistic: Cloud, Inklings & Rayman
Optimistic: Cloud, Dixie Kong (or K.Rool) & Banjo-Kazooie.
The truth probably lies somewhere in between. Or not!
Ever since Smash was announced for the 3DS and Wii U, I have been wanting to see four characters: Lucina, Robin, Bowser Jr. and anyone from Golden Sun. Quite fortunately for me, three of them actually made it in. With the exception of the Golden Sun character, everyone I want to see in Smash (reasonably) and originate from games before Smash are already in. Naturally, I am also interested in seeing elements (not just fighters) from the newer games too, be it Splatoon, Captain Toad, Xenoblade X, Fire Emblem Fates, or something else.
Now for the speculation. First off, I am not entirely sure about the ballot. I think the Smash team is fully aware of the dangers of online polling, and thus may not use it as an absolute guide for determining the characters to include. Sakurai is also much more careful at talking about playable characters in Smash compared to the 64 and Melee days, so I am not sure he will disclose the raw ballot results, either.
I think there will be 5 upcoming characters in total. It is a rather generous estimate, and this is because we have 4 DLC characters thus far, and they were released in DLC waves 1 and 2, which was quite a while ago. Clones or not, it does show that they are actually quite fast at making characters.
As for the characters themselves, I believe there will be no more third party characters. I talked about potential additions from other companies that are currently friendly with Nintendo, but most exceptionally recognizable characters whose styles work well with Smash are already covered. Among Nintendo characters, I’d say Inkling and Chibi-Robo for being recently popular choices with moves compatible with Smash, and Wolf and the missing Pokémon since Smash is big on keeping as many old characters as it can. I think these, along with Cloud, are not picked because of the ballot, but from other observations and considerations.
I have to admit to finding it just a bit funny that TheAnvil refers to two more characters as a “pessimistic” outcome. Not that he’s wrong – two more seem to be the target, and DLC really can’t go on forever – but because seven downloadable characters in total is pretty cool, and a lot more than many of us initially suspected. I’m definitely hoping for more stages and characters (even a dump of additional, unremixed music would be cool!), but I’m not really going in with as many expectations.
Personally, my view of this iteration of Smash has been, “come what may.” All the characters I wanted most in Brawl got in (Paper Mario excepted), so I’ve been happiest being shocked and won over by characters I never thought would happen (Greninja, Duck Hunt, the Koopalings), characters I never thought should happen (Pac-Man, Cloud, Bowser Jr., Miis), and complete surprises (Rosalina, Robin, Wii Fit Trainer). If some of our writings are any indication, it’s been hard getting a handle on what comes next, which I really like. Smash and Sakurai thrive on playing with our expectations, so while I don’t expect to see longshot fighters coming in, I do hope to come out of the broadcast with expectations shattered. Especially since this is not unlikely to be the final update for this version.
Maybe that’s what I’m looking forward to the most: possibly seeing Sakurai one final time for what’s been such an incredibly fun ride and game. From the second we saw Villager to the second we saw Cloud, learning about Smash For has been wild, frenetic, and challenging to what we’ve expected. The Directs and Broadcasts have been part of that, and it’ll be just as bittersweet for those to end as the game’s DLC.
It’s kind of hard to guess what characters will come, as some of the “top viable” contenders have some issues. With every day, my support for the Shovel Knight rumor dwindles, and I’m glad that the rumor will finally be either confirmed or dead based on the December Broadcast.
I think we are only going to get 2 more characters, based on the data slots. In the past, I thought we would only get two more, so seeing three new characters has me excited. I don’t expect a lot as development for characters — especially new ones, takes a long time. I think Wolf’s ship has sailed a long time ago, but he can get in if he’s the last/extra character developed…I just don’t see normal development time being allocated for him. See Frostwraith’s amazing Misconception on Clone article if you are interested in learning more about clone/ semi-clone development as I believe DLC development could follow a similar path.
As for who, it’s difficult to say. I think Inklings are likely and that’s about it. I’m not sure if the other character will be a Nintendo character, or another 3rd party. I don’t think Square-Enix has any more costumes as I believe they would have been shown with Cloud…especially if they were FF related. It’s possible Sakurai has more up his sleeve, but a part of me is hoping I can ￼￼change Spazzy_D’s avatar. If you have any suggestions, let me know in the comments or Twitter.
As has been said before, I think this is the final Smash Update, or more specifically, the final Smash NEWS update. We’ll find out soon if Cloud was part of the ballot or not, as well as, at bare minimum, the 2 other data mined slots. While Cloud might be touched upon soon in Famitsu, the other 2, and the ballot status as a whnirole remains a mystery. I don’t think there is a winner as I’ve said in the past, as this is merely a suggestion box first and foremost. I do believe, or would like to believe that the last 2 slots are pre ballot given any likely development time table (though 1 being added later could be post ballot I’m sure). As for the who, I don’t have any real guess at this point. Lots of people are adamant Wolf will be coming, but at this point I think any hope of that is gone, at this point the only veteran I could honestly see coming back is Snake, not because he’s more likely, but there’s more to gain from his inclusion at this point. I don’t think he’s likely, just more likely. For the 2 slots I think it’ll be two newcomers, though likely not released with Cloud. The first I could see being a fan favorite character that wouldn’t necessarily do well in the ballot, the second I feel will probably be more used for more advertisement purposes. As I said, I don’t have a good guess, so I’ll just throw out two wild card names in the Inklings, and Linkle.
Of course, if this is all ballot that goes out the window, but as I said, I’d like to believe they’d wait till near the end of the ballot to pick who we’ll see. I think regardless we’ll find out who those chosen are, be they the 2 missing slots or something beyond that. I do want to give special shout out to K. Rool though, as I feel he’s one character that no matter how good he did in the ballot, won’t be picked (and since I’m building a torch and pitchfork line for my butt, this goes for a lot of characters such as Isaac) because they’re not currently relevant. Moreover, characters like that could be used to better sell Smash 5 (K. Rool anyway) than minor profit on DLC in Smash 4. I think we’ll see some well loved but less popular 1st parties and some 3rd party too. I’m guessing we see 3 ballot characters, whether it be Cloud and Friends or 3 after that, and I also think we’ll see a new game mode with Cloud and Friends, and balance updates for the next year or so. The only thing I do know is however, this Smash Broadcast will be hype.
Do you agree with our choices? What are your predictions for the upcoming December presentation? Let us know in the comments!